I’ve never seen a fat buterf
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CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:05
LinkCoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:06
LinkThere’s two ways this ramble can go one is talking about people who draw fat and obese people in a weird Fetishizing way or I talk about datsaturas new posts that I just found out they made and make fun of them
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:07
LinkDesatura whatever there user is is like more political and woke though and uses a lot of terms that most ppl wom’t understand and get confused or turned off
Honestly same
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:08
LinkWhat if I just used like political and transphobic buzzwords everytime I talked
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:08
LinkThere’s been a couple users on this site that drew fat ppl and yk I never heard it talked about
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:08
LinkMiso was one of them
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:10
LinkI’ll just talk about the fat ppl thing bc it’s never talked abt
But basically when miso was exposed and everything peoole started to talk about how weird there art was
And that it was like weird fetish art
But it’s something I’m like unsure about
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:11
LinkWhat makes something fetish art and what makes something someone just prefers to draw or likes to represent?
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:14
LinkI draw lanky figures a lot in my art but I try to represent some type of diversity in terms of body types when I can
That being said I don’t draw fat people to the same degree Miso and other users had
Well maybe not drawn because miso was tracing alot of art from another user offsite
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:19
LinkI don’t like.. art that draws ppl the way miso did
That doesn’t make them a horrible person or anything
For some reason it just feels weird in my mind
If people drew underweight ppl the same way miso did overweight ppl I would feel the same way
I feel like it’s almost promoting a bad lifestyle?
That isn’t to say that all overweight people or underweight people are just that way because of diet because illness and other factors go into fat distribution
Having characters that a underweight, or overweight isn’t a crime or wrong in my opinion
But when it comes to obesity or starvation I think it should be addressed it’s not something you should strive for
It’s not something that is alright or positive it is a detriment to your health
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:22
LinkThat doesn’t mean you should tell obese people or severely underweight ppl to die or that they are ugly
Because to me it’s not that fat people can’t be pretty because they can be I see it all the time in media
I do have characters on both sides of the spectrum some are skinnier and some can be fatter but outright obesity idk
That’s something you should work on, I never hated miso outright for there art, because people can draw whatever they want and it would be pointless
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:29
LinkI feel like being slightly underweight or overweight is fine and sometimes fat distribution can make your body look outside of the status quo
And I think you should love your body regardless but realize when something is unhealthy
My characters have different body types to represent there living situation, mental health or life styles
That also includes muscular characters, I hated drawing muscles and I still do but I’m implementing them into characters that would sensibly have muscles even if I’m shit at it
If you have a fatter character because they don’t care about what they eat or don’t work out I’m not gonna hate you over that I feel like it’s realistic I’m overweight myself
Bro isn’t even that heavy
Camren
🏋️🏋️🏋️
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:29
LinkNO FLIPANIM MESSED UP THE JOKE
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:41
LinkI never see ppl just casually draw fat ppl on here is what I’m saying it’s either it’s the only thing you draw or you don’t draw it at all LOL
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:47
LinkIdk as a character designer ( self proclaimed don’t check my records ) I think having a range of body types is important it helps get rid of repetition
When people draw fat ppl all the time I’m not sure if I should feel differently because ppl draw average sized ppl all the time to and I don’t whine abt it
Because fat doesn’t automatically mean obese it can mean slightly over the average or just chubby ( I hate using that worddawg)and to me that’s fine because people at that range might just have different lifestyles or mindsets but obesity is like a problem- it’s a issue
and to draw it all the time without noting it’s a problem and making those characters seem happy and “just as normal as everyone else” isn’t right in my mind
And ik its fictional and technically characters are capable of everything
It’s just not realistic to me and that bothers me
Doesn’t mean i’m harrassing or making claims agains ppl I can’t really have proof someone is Fetishizing something without there word
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:49
LinkObesity is a hindrance it’s a problem it affects your life in so many ways people with obesity get terminally depressed and it’s hard to recover from it
Anything is possible in fiction but there’s just some content that I don’t like that irks me
And content like that and vice versa if someone was drawing people severely underweight ppl all the time being happy and carefree I just wouldn’t dig it
And that’s okay
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:52
LinkJust ppl never talk about there feelings on it and I wanted to see how other ppl felt
Because ALOT of ppl liked misos “art” ( it was traced ) so obviously a lot of ppl did like it
So there’s probably a lot of ppl who feel differently then what I do
And I’m not a asshole who thinks if someone doesn’t think the same way i do there wrong because
I don’t LIKE hating different forms of content I don’t enjoy hating on art
I feel that in some ways drawing that kind of art can be a way of coping to the artist if they dealt or are dealing with the same issue
CoolCatCamren[OP]
15.04.2024 04:56
LinkAlso I might have a personal bias and have a knack for drawing women with smaller chests because I have a smaller chest LOL so I get having biases in art and body types as well
I NEVER see ppl like draw the body type I have so I just do it myself
gotta get those kafkatraps goin camren /ref /j
in seriousness its kinda odd that every piece of art containing fat people always has that one comment thats "omg its fetishizing the character!" but what if it wasnt? what if the artist was trying to do true representation? its soooooo funny (/sar) when people put negative labels on certain styles of art when a person is uncomfortable. its weird and chronically online!
I feel it depends about having a balance in the things you draw but like not in what you draw but how you do it idk if that makes sense in terrible at expressing my words :,)
Also very cool drawing reminds me of absolute radiance with those colors
THANKS it’s hard to really prove for certain what a artists motives are, even by analyzing there art
I sometimes draw my characters without clothes and I wouldn’t want people to take it as a inappropriate innuendo when it’s not
I avoid drawing the inappropriate parts that would technically make sense to drive the narrative that I’m not drawing characters nude because I want to make graphic content or to please myself or others
It’s because I like drawing the body and there’s details I want to show that clothes would cover up
And because I hate drawing clothes
But people might interpret my art regardless as fetishization of women or I’m drawing something suggestive
But to me I think what makes art suggestive is the motivation behind it and how the drawing is presented
Making obese characters is fine, they need a level of respect and dignity they rarely get at all irl
But if you're only drawing them to fit a quota of what you think representation is you're only promoting unhealthy lifestyles and something that quite literally kills the body every second its around
If you do make an obese character, at least let their journey be one that motivates others that need it on a path of health and show that they aren’t subhuman- but isnt condoning horrendous eating or exercise habits
Some people may be **overweight because of hormones, but no one is born to be obese and shouldn’t be