Yeah, It's actually happening
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ProMagma[OP]
02.03.2021 19:44
LinkHey everybody, I am actually going to listen to those of you who have told me time and time again, to apologize(stubborn me :/ ) Anyways, before we continue… PLEASE- read everything before commenting, I need you to understand what I am saying so that if needed, we can have a serious discussion instead of a full blown argument. Another thing to know, this is a subject that some may be uncomfortable talking about, if you feel that way, you have no obligation to stay and read. Okay, with that out of the way… here's what I have to say-
Alright. You have all seen the original comment that goes “I support the lgtbq, but not trans. That's gross” I was very wrong in saying that, not only is it not true, but it isn't what I meant at all. Someone asked me if I support the lgtbq community, and that “trans is gross” part was completely unneeded, When I was younger I had a video sent to me from a friend (not a friend anymore) that showed a woman (tits and generally a “generic woman” as some would say) acting as a woman
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ProMagma[OP]
02.03.2021 19:44
Linkthen suddenly swung out her dick without warning, I was around 9-10 when seeing this video and has scarred me since, this is still no excuse for what I said, just background information. Some more information you should know about me is that I was born and raised in a very religious state, the state of Utah.. My parents and everyone around me has always taught me that there are two genders, male and female, When I made that comment 3 months ago, I was not educated in the subject and didn't know the effect that something like that comment would cause. I am so very sorry to those who I have offended or hurt, I will not be making any more comments about the lgtbq community in this way, and I understand If some or all of you do not agree with me and do not accept this apology, but know that I am trying my absolute hardest to fix things and I really do feel very sorry.
Now about the pedofile thing, I understand that the kid said he was 8-13, yet I have heard from multiple people that he is actually 15 (not conf
ProMagma[OP]
02.03.2021 19:45
Linkirmed) anyways, that is not the point, It wasnt okay for me to joke about that when he specifically asked people not to. Sorry for that as well.
The point of this is that people who called me a pedo are wrong, the requirements to be a pedofile are as follows: “Under the DSM-IV-TR 302.2, the specific criteria for pedophilia are the following: 1. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)”
Thank you for taking the time to read this, Please let me know if there is ANYTHING else that I should talk about. I hope this drama can come to an end, I really hope you all have a great day.
ProMagma[OP]
02.03.2021 19:46
LinkOne other thing i want to mention, this is for the people that got offended from my actions, NOT for my followers who simp.. sorry but its the truth.
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ProMagma[OP]
02.03.2021 19:51
Link[𝘿𝙤 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙢𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙖𝙜𝙚]
ProMagma[OP]
02.03.2021 23:37
LinkAlso, there is one other thing I want to mention, even though this wasnt really part of this situation
Because I am not SELLING my realsim artwork, I cannot get sued from the original photographer. I am not earning anything from the photos, and I am not cediting them off as mine, I put a refrence link in almost every single drawing that I do.
Thank you- Case closed.
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billyaybatwashere
20.04.2021 11:58
Linkhi there I wanted to say that it was a great apology
ananamoose
05.05.2021 20:07
Linkum.. it wasnt for u tho
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im guessing your about 8? basically whats happening is a bunch of apologies from promagma being VERY transphobic. of course, you dont even know the lgbtq+ is or what it means. which, thats a very good thing at about your age group. unlike me, who learned about the lgbtq+ and trans people at about 8-9.
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Thank you for apologizing. This is all you needed to do. I forgive you and appreciate that you stood up and did the right thing. This could have came way earlier but either way thank you.
i didnt really know what it was all about, but i read this,
and bro you have an amazing way with words, i mean if i was in your shoes, and i made this post, i would have probably spent so long trying to figure out what to say, and you said it great :))
I didn’t know what the situation was, but I’m sure lots of people will forgive you and if some ppl don’t... well then haters gonna hate, u know? And u did an amazing job clearing everything up. What I would suggest is that you take a break from flipanim for like a few days so this matter will be settled around ur fa family.
❤️🙏🙏❤️
Thanks for the mature apology. You really showed how sorry you were about offending them and you included many details that were also very important to put in the apology. You also didn't try to force people to forgive you or say you could've never apologized at all. Pretty acceptable apology.
İt's nice to see that you didn't run away from these problems and decided to face with them in a mature way.I don't know what to say about trans people (i respect them like everyone else)but when i learned that pedo realted thing i tought you were just a cocky guy doesn't mind other peoples hearts or opinions since you are famous here but happily i was proven wrong .Well ... good job?
Youre a big man for admiting that you were wrong. Even though I was not offended. We all accept youre appology. I respect you for being the bigger person and we can all move on.
damn a good apology on fa
I'd accept but I cannot because it doesn't affect me but dAMN
a mature apology guys, we movin up
😺 i got nothin, but i cant really forgive u since i wasnt really affected so ill watch if this ends or nah
promagma i frogive u it was wrong of u to asme but it was wrng of us to hate ill delete the promagma no flag
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Also I’m very very sorry for commenting like... a lot-
I don’t want it to seem like I’m tRyiNg tO gEt yOu tO nOtiCe mE bC yOuR fAmOuS aNd aLl, I’m just trying to help you out, like the rest of us. You didn’t mean any harm and your FA family is here to help you through the situation and out the door of it. And just know: if no one else in the world will love you God will. (And no one will not not love you, you have too many friends lol)
I agree with you about the trans and I actually believe the LGBTQ+ community are very very wrong, nothing against the people, but I am against the thought.
How about how you come to mine and other's accounts to attack us, despite us saying to stay off our accounts.
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You didn't explain the xenogender comment
But uh yeah,good apology ig but not my right to accept or deny because I'm not transgender
sorry sorry i couldn't find this comment uh
and i have the screenshot too it if you wanna see but yeah @cassette is right uh,i mean that one
also um,,as a non-binary i might share my pov like the others since we are under the trans umbrella,you could've hurt someone badly man,you're 17 and i get you were scarred from 10 but you;re nearly an adult and that was kinda ****ed up,,especially the minor thing but,ig this apology is quite responsible and has explanations which were needed
even if im nb,this as not directed too me,i just wanted too say my pov as someone under the trans umbrella so plbpblbpb
most of you don't even have the right to forgive him.
i believe that most of you aren't even trans or the kid he said the "joke" to.
i, personally, also don't have the right to forgive you. but, that being said i still have no trust in you and i have my reasons to not like you.
I wasn’t in the situation and I get that I wasn’t supposed to accept the apology, and I’m obviously not trans or whatever, but I did because I needed to know what was going on for my sanity even tho I don’t even know promagma. I didn’t want to follow a person that supports this kind of stuff. I also didn’t know that I shouldn’t accept the apology bc I wasn’t “affected” or “involved”.
Sorry❤️❤️
Hey, i will admit this..i was one of those people who felt hurt either from that question..but that apology was really truly touching..and i really understand your side now, i rly think that everyone will forgive you!
Thank you for this apology, I forgive you.
honestly the "NOT for my followers who simp.. sorry but it's the truth." kinda made me giggle.
anyways, this came from the heart. Thanks for not pulling up Omeger. I'm not mad at you for the dick thing, I'm only mad about the LGBT thing.
Honestly, idrk if Omeger is transphobic or anything,,,,
if he is that's a separate problem. Anyways, thank you. You have been forgiven. I'm sorry for being so rude, but please get your facts checked. This apology is like no apology I've seen, and it made me happy. I love your art, and honestly, I wish I hadn't turned against you, but I thought it was the right thing to do for me.
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Thank you. This is enough for me to follow again but it might be a while before i fully trust you. Once again I'm sorry for my part in the drama. -Aloe
oMG i siGNeD iT IM bEinG sEriOUs woWiE
As someone that is trans/ genderfluid, I think you did the right thing. I'm not exactly sure if I forgive you yet. But, then again I understand better why you said what you said and I appreciate it a lot. Thank you for apologizing and not just trying to blame it on someone else or running away from it. It took a while for this, but I'm glad you did it. That was really mature of you. Thank you.^^
Thanks for the apology, I looked up to you so it really hurt when you said what you did. I don't fully forgive you yet but I know that there isn't much more you can do now. Thanks for owning up to it instead of trying to pass of the blame to somebody else or hide from it, it takes guts to do that. It was really mature of you, so thanks again.
I generally accept you apology, (though some might not) it seems like you took time to apologize and you seem very sorry. Just try to be more carful about what you say, the bigger accounts always get more drama and everyone's watching what they say and do. Avoid doing this again, and everything will most likely be fine.
thanks for making an actual apology post, i hope you keep this [post] up to let people know you’re genuinely sorry. at the moment i don’t accept your apology, but it doesn’t mean i will never forgive you [i just want to see if you stick true to your apology before i actually forgive you]. it takes massive effort to admit to wrongdoings, and i’m glad you “stepped up to the plate and gave it your all”.
i know this has been said multiple times throughout the comment section, but [directed at the people accepting promagma’s apology] if you’re not trans [or cisgender; you identify as your birth sex/gender] you don’t have the place to accept this apology. this apology is directed at the trans people he [promagma] hurt and the kid he made uncomfortable with his message.
[you didn’t bring this up in your apology but i forgive you for “invalidating my identity”.]
while I may not forgive you, I can see clearly that you are trying to own up to your mistakes. that is in fact a rather mature thing to do, good on you. (also, I am one of the people who can accept/deny the apology because im nonbinary, so yeah) also, I understand that growing up in a religious state such as Utah may have affected your thinking, but I'm reminding everyone here (not directed at anyone) that that's not an excuse. I have a friend who grew up in Utah, and is transgender. so there is zero way for that to be the end-all. I grew up in a Christian household, and attended Christian summer camps, and I have also been told many times that there are only two genders as well, but that isnt true.
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thanks you for the apology- i was personally not one of the haters, because of the fact that I don't really care if people don't like trans or LGBTQ+. when you posted that comment, at the time i was like: ok whatever so what if he doesn't like them, thats his opinion. but that was kinda hypothetical, and i can really see how an event like that can scar you for life, so i do not blame you.
Thanks for apologizing! I didn't want to get involved so I didn't say anything, but now that it is resolved I feel comfortable saying that it was wrong for you to make assumptions about trans people and stereotype us. Thank you for saying your sorry. Let's hope we can all learn from our mistakes and move on!
it's good u made an actual apology, hope u learned smth, even if it's just that lgbtq kids on FA are rabid animals
Personally I haven't been harasses or anything like that so idk what bad stuff other than the transphobic comment even happened so like I don't actually have a real reason to directly be angry with u
I'm gonna go back to having a neutral opinion on u
I dont fully accept your apology (im nb as the person aboce me aaid its under the trans umbrella)
The words you said about trans people where hurtful as i really looked up to you but its nice to see you made a post with a full apology on it it shows your mature and you understsnd what you did was wrong
It may take me a while to forgive but goodjon for owning up
You meant it in a different way Promagma. So you don't have to apologize you thought that it was weird that people would switch there private parts to something different. And they thought that u were weird. So you don't have to apologize again you can let them keep talking and keep the drama. So just ignore them. THIS IS YOUR ANIMATIONS. Not there's. But if you want to do it differently u can.
hi baby i don't accept ur apology you still owe me a makeout session
you're one of if not the biggest user on this site, and you are giving the numerous ****ing BABIES on here a horrible image to look up to. people will mimic what you do, and they do, and the things you say spread not just through your words but through the words of others. i don't blame you entirely for the actions of others, obviously, but i do blame you for you not being able to manage the platform you seem to love so much and using it to spread hate and compare not liking trans people to not liking a ****ing food. if you want to keep a good image maybe learn that what you say has consequences that extend far beyond the people you're talking to.
also haven't apologized for the things you said to several of my followers and friends, most notably calling us all "pissgoblins", when most of us in that chain were, infact, trans and even xenogender (not all, but most, i believe). it wasn't hurtful, infact it was funny as all hell, BUT
its a prime example of why you don't deserve your platform. you very obviously can't handle it. you're immature, you think you're better than everyone, you go out of your way to apparently call people "pissgoblins" and go onto my profile just to do it. should i have been talking about you? no, and i apologize for that, but at the same ****ing time if you don't want to be talked about don't make yourself worth talking about and making fun of.
anyways no when you leave flipanim and this account and disconnect yourself from all the children that stan you and probably kin you at this point and then grow into an actual better person who learns to humble himself and not say stupid shit and then ignore it until everyone's talking about it, and also make out with me because you STILL owe me a makeout session you *****, maybe then i'll forgive you
but until then you're still promaga
okay sooo first of all I am NOT using my platform to spread hate, I said it one time and have apologized for it multiple times, so dont act like i use this website to spread hate because I dont. And next, I said "pissgoblin" as a joke, it OBIOUSLY wasnt suppost to be a comeback lmao, I was joking around but some people take me too seriously. I dont hate being talked about, but I do hate it when people spread roumors about me without knowing the whole truth. and idk why you keep bringing up "makeout sesh, its really not needed in this conversation, and you could keep it a bit more professional.
anyways, with that said, It's fine if you dont forgive me, I just wanted people to know my situation a bit better.
whether or not you meant to spread hate you definitely are if you're gonna say that kind of shit about trans people like you don't have 6k easily impressionable children at the ready
also im aware that was a joke but the thing is, that wasn't the only thing in the comment chain. and to be entirely honest the only reason i mention it specifically is because it's the only specific thing i remember from that conversation. brain damage, makes you forget things, you get the idea
also when was i ever spreading rumors, anything i said about you that wasnt true i made clear was a joke lol
back on that comment chain from before
that wasn't the only thing in there and regardless of whether what you said was meant to be a joke or not, thing is it still shows you're immature and undeserving of your platform. you came onto my profile, where you were clearly not welcome, insulted people, and then left. i don't care about whether or not you were joking about anything, when is that ok
okay yeah I know because I have a following means that im going to have people who just repeat me and make things worse, I really cant control those people, the best thing i can do is make an apology to try and stop this nonsense, we all use this site to draw and meet people, Why not keep it that way??
and yeah thats the only thing i really remember too i understand
I didnt mean YOU were spreading rumours, you just said that I hate being talked about, which i responded "i dont, but i dont like rumors without full truth"
well when you made a post that used my username, I figured I was allowed to say my take on it.. you know? i didnt really think you didnt nessisarily want me there, no one asked me to leave..they just kept arguing soo...
but yeah, I just realized this is who latticeddreams was talking about, they asked me to say sorry specifically to you, so sorry theo I didnt mean to cause you any more stress than needed.
thanks for at leaset reading the apology though, some people dont even take the time to do that
i thought you used this site for clout based on how much you seem to love it and also the fact i don't think literally anyone knows anything about your personality other than the fact you're overconfident but like alright user promagma
no but what you CAN control and SHOULD control is the shit you say, which you obviously haven't done. if you can't prepare for having a platform then maybe you shouldn't have it. i know you can't stop people from repeating what you say and do but what you CAN do is make it so they're not repeating something bad.
also if that's the case why did you come onto my profile and why are you on my profile as we speak
I dont use this site for clout, I never have.. I've been on this site for almost 4 years now and only started to get popular within the last year, but i still used the website before i even had 500, I use this site because it's honestly the best one i could find that allowed me to do realism art which is very hard to find in a website.
I can control what I said, and that's why i feel so bad for saying it
because i didnt know that u didnt want me there until i just barely read it, not going to force you but,, it would be a little nice if you kept the hate posts to a minimum, Its up to u but i dont like them when i see them..
you didnt mean to put it that way and some people overreacted and thats not right. but if you support lgbtq+ thats your decision its ok caus ei support it and im part of it.people just dont really understand what personal boundaries are (the woman pulling out her dick). that wasnt right speccialy on the internet. no one wants to see that but if she feels comfotrable doing so then good for her but a lot of people just dont want to see that. and some people dont get that.
I do not forgive you @Promagma what you did was not right and you should have kept it to yourself and why did you say "Are u trans or non binary? No? Okay then u cant forgive me" and "I support the lgtbq, but not trans. That's gross" you didn't even say LGBTQ+ right. Your only giving us "apology" to gain more followers. This is disgusting and even though that video may have been mentally scaring but still this is no excuse and everyone that does forgive you is a fool.
I had no idea what happened 😂
But it's good to see you apologize
I've read the whole thing but idk how it started 😅
So yea-
I understand how you felt about saying all of this- And I accept ur apology. People are raised differently. Like me, I never even met my "dad" because my mother is lesbian. But just know if anyone... ANYONE. is apart of the Lgbtq+ or supports it- Well...I don't even care if you don't support it. Just know love doesn't have a title, I hope you remember this.
Reaper out :I-
i havent been on flipanim in a while so i dont know whats when this drama started but in my opinion, i think people should forgive him (its ok if you dont) he explained everything that happened and he said that he didnt mean it, also everyone makes mistakes in life and no-one is perfect, so please stop showing hate to magma
I should have said this from the start but... Cant he have his own opinions?! We have the freedom of speech! He can believe and think what he wants! You guys should shut up and respect that.
I love how all these cis people are like "Oh I forgive you" or "I respect your opinions"... I hate to break it to y'all but you have no idea what it feels like to be trans and therefore are not educated enough to have an opinion on this matter. Your opinions are not valid, even if you don't accept his apology your opinion is still invalid. The only people who have the right to accept or deny ProMagma's apology are:
-VERY well educated cisgendered members of the LGBTQ+ community (went through a trans phase, did a project on the transgender community, have trans relatives that they wanted to respect and researched the transgender community to stop themselves from saying anything inappropriate/transphobic, you get the point)
-And of course the transgender community
ANYONE ELSE DOES NOT HAVE A VALID OPINION, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS TRANSPHOBIC AND WHAT IS NOT, STOP COMMENTING YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SITUATION
P.S.-For you idiots who are using "freedom of speech" to defend ProMagma, that is not how freedom of speech works, and just because someone has the rights to hold their own opinions and beliefs doesn't mean that whatever comes out of their mouth doesn't affect anyone because it's "just their opinion". It's like if I said "All black people deserve to die because their skin color is absolutely hideous" (I DO NOT THINK THAT IN ACTUALITY THIS IS AN EXAMPLE), people are going to be pissed!!! Even if I'm entitled to my own opinion THAT WOULDN'T MEAN I'M NOT RACIST! Stop using "It's his opinion" and "Freedom of speech" to stop people from getting mad at Promagma
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