If ur a guy, trans or cis it dont matter, and attracted to girls and only girls, ur straight yes. Just because we're trans guys, doesnt mean we can be lesbian lol.

Im closing it here cuz hooo boy does this topic get in my head bad

Because people fought to be seen for these labels, lesbians fought to be seen and noticed as who they are as people who aren't men and are not attracted to men and to have us men coming in and involving ourselves with a label they made because they arent attracted to us is fcking ridiculous. Imagine lesbians who fought for their rights for being who they are and seeing later on that men are now included in a label that they made for non men, how would you think they would react? Im not saying its hurting me, but i will not deny someone else could be hurt by others who think men can be in nonmen spaces. And by judging how this went, its clear yall will not listen to other queers informing you on this subject. Other queers who are probably educated about this topic too and trying to calmly educate on the label. The fact that "men shouldn't be allowed in lesbian spaces" is an arguement rn in 2024 is wild.

THISS !!! my god im surprised this is even a discourse rn

On how invalidating it is to think us men can be lesbians when that simply isn't something we can identify as. Not only invaliding lesbians, but us trans men by saying its okay for us to be lesbian. In what way is it alright to label ourselves with a nonmen label? We can't be lesbian and that's that. Again, can't change what you think but that's just what i believe and would stand with others who are lesbians and other transmen who believe we can't be such. God i feel like im on TikTok or Twitter rn.