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29.04.2022
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29.04.2022 20:11
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My friend wrote a doc about the term. I later rewrote it. For an argumentative paper for school.
29.04.2022 20:11
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What u will be reading is my cool swag paper
29.04.2022 20:11
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I will be using adult terms to refer to adult subjects in this topic, just a warning before you read. I will be explaining these terms so I can make my case. Every new comment will be a paragraph from said paper.
29.04.2022 20:11
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The term “femboy” and many others has been used since the 1990’s, it was originally used to describe feminine men, usually in both non-sexual and sexual context. Now, it’s mostly used in a derogatory manor and should not be used casually due to the impact the terms and the meaning behind them.
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Around 2013, the term surfaced on PornHub as a search category for a form of adult entertainment. In the same context of pornography, it’s now usually used against transgender women, such as “trap”, “tr*nny”, “She-male”, and much more. Femboy is usually used in a fetishizing way, but it is usually said to or about transgender women. When referring to a trans woman as such, you are misgendering her and invalidating her identity.
29.04.2022 20:11
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Cisgender men are seen to have more of an attraction to trans people in a fetishistic way, usually viewing transgender people or transgender identities for their body and that alone. There have been surveys where an author of an article would ask transgender people if they have had any experience with being fetishized in such a manor, and what their experience was or how they felt about it. According to springer.com, in their article “Being Talked to Like I Was a Sex Toy, Like Being Transgender Was Simply for the Enjoyment of Someone Else”: Fetishization and Sexualization of Transgender and Non-binary Individuals, the writers got 142 transgender-identified people and the majority agreed it “was a negative experience with sexual objectification.” How does it tie in with using the term “femboy”? Transgender women specifically are referred to as “femboys” usually to describe them in a sexual manor, or in pornography. Individuals who fetishize transgender women often need to use this term in pornography. The
29.04.2022 20:12
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- only time femboy can be reclaimed as a label is mostly when a transgender woman needs to use the label for sex work.
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Relational fetishization is much more different than fetishization on social media when it comes to how it impacts an individual. When an individual experiences fetishization, no matter the gender, it downplays the individual and their body. This increases levels of anxiety and depression. When doing this to a person, it makes them feel worthless and leads them to believe they could possibly be nothing more than a sex toy. Relational support usually lowers psychological distress, while the fetishization may worsen someone’s mental health.
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Transgender men (FTM/NB) are trying to reclaim the term “femboy” and “she-male” as terms to identify how they dress. They are using the term like how it was designed to be currently, which is describing a feminine dressed male or non-binary individuals. Unfortunately it also gives other individuals not only the opportunity to sexualize these individuals, but also feel comfortable in describing others with the same term. Other terms that could be used instead of “femboy” is just “femme”, and“tomgirl”. Femme is for any gender to describe how they would present feminine, tomgirl is usually for boys who behave in a “girly” manor, countering this is “tomboy”.
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In all, using the term “femboy” and many other terms does a lot more harm than good when referring to an individual. At least before using the term, you look up its history and original meaning. With this, I hope just to inform people on the misuse of the word and why it shouldn’t be used. Not every transgender individual has the same views as I, but they could very well still be uncomfortable from the usage of these terms.
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Sources: https://learnenglishfunway.com/femboy-what-is-a-femboy/ https://assets.bouldercounty.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/transgender-resource-guide.pdf https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33763803/ https://www.margaretalbaugh.com/tomgirl/#:~:text=tomgirl%3A%20noun%3B%20tom%2Dgurl,feminine%20is%20looked%20down%20on.
29.04.2022 20:15
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Another source I used was my friends doc but it's not a reliable source without OTHER sources backing it up so I linked sites you should read from ty.
29.04.2022 20:27
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No where in this paper I said it was a slur, I'm saying it's derogatory.
29.04.2022 20:29
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Literally read my closing sentence you dummies !!!!! In all, using the term “femboy” and many other terms does a lot more harm than good when referring to an individual. At least before using the term, you look up its history and original meaning. With this, I hope just to inform people on the misuse of the word and why it shouldn’t be used. Not every transgender individual has the same views as I, but they could very well still be uncomfortable from the usage of these terms.
29.04.2022 20:57
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Alssoooo I don't care if you use the label fembooyyyy for yourself, just don't use it for people who don't want to be called such.
29.04.2022 20:59
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Stop twisting my words to hear what you want to hear, meaning making me seem like the bad guy when I literally just wrote the history behind the term and why it's iffy to use it. First paragraph, last sentence: "it’s mostly used in a derogatory manor and should not be used casually due to the impact the terms and the meaning behind them." If you don't even know what I mean by this, good lord get off my account because it's clear you're under 12. I'm saying it shouldn't be in casual sentences where you're okay with describing someone with the term.
29.04.2022 21:02
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This post was countering: Stop saying I started this shit if you don't care enough to know why I posted this u fgbnhgfdscfvg
29.04.2022 20:12
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thank you for saying what i’ve been trying to say FORVEER?? omg ??. /gen
29.04.2022 20:18
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i talked about how femboy as a “style” was fetishizing and how the term was fetishizing and people treated me like i was crazy 😞
29.04.2022 20:14
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THANK U FOR TALKINGA BOUT THIS
29.04.2022 20:16
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! I CAN LINK MY BREIF DOCUMENT U WERE REFERRING TO BUT IT BASICALLY SAYS THE SAME THING
29.04.2022 20:17
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U CAN!!
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29.04.2022 20:18
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NeiWxtG0sjbrAaPICsokHEtSArQmwemeN5ugdlzErN0/edit?usp=sharing
29.04.2022 20:19
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i made this doc a while ago because of my discomfort if a few people i knew using the word!!! BTW
29.04.2022 20:18
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Can I just??? hug you bro?? The fact that you are standing up for the trans community in school by writing a paper makes me so happy I- just- thank you 💖😭 Also, thank you for informing me/us as well! I didn't know a lot about this stuff- I'll try to avoid using this term now that I know the history behind it.
29.04.2022 20:23
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I go to an alternative school and the teacher was okay with it :]
29.04.2022 20:26
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Just going to say if you're not trans* or identify with a transgender identity*, you have no right to argue with me for I do not want to hear it. Trans meaning if you identify with your birth gender in any way.
29.04.2022 20:27
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No where in this paper I said it was a slur, I'm saying it's derogatory.
29.04.2022 20:35
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I don't care about y'alls opinions, give me articles on transgender women coming out and saying it's okay for transgender men to be called such or soemthing
29.04.2022 20:38
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I don't care if you call yourself or your friends a femboy but if you personally describe someone as such without knowing their discomfort of the word, henceforth educate yourself or go offline and log off.
29.04.2022 20:41
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I sleep now because my allergies acting up, this'll either A: spiral into drama and people saying I started it or something because once again I'm the face of it for some reason or B: vague post and shit talk or C: it'll just. die down.
29.04.2022 20:59
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29.04.2022 20:41
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why are people trying to say that it's a slur... it's not good to say it, but that ca go for a lot of things either way,, most times i see it used unironically it usually seems. fetishy :^[
29.04.2022 20:42
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THIS. ^
29.04.2022 20:46
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I'm a trans dude, and honestly maybe this is my opinion but I honestly think that "femboy" isn't much of a derogatory term? I mean I get that its history is like, yucky but I think you should check with someone to see if they're ok with being called "femboy" I guess? I mean I would be ok with someone calling me a femboy. I feel like the term "femboy" is kinda similar to (Not when it comes to meaning, I'll explain what's similar about it) the word "queer". Queer was (and I guess still is) a slur but tons of people (both LGBT+ and not) use it, and when they use it, they generally mean anyone who isn't Cisgender Heteroromantic Heterosexual yk? Sure there's generally a bad history behind it but still. "Femboy" is similar in the way that most people who say it don't mean to say it in a derogatory way, they're saying it as an adjective (in this case, to describe a feminine man). I still agree with a lot of what you said though. i wanna start an arguement but I would like to have a discussion to understand yourside
29.04.2022 20:47
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I MEANT I "DONT" WANNA START AN ARGUEMENT SORRY
29.04.2022 20:47
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Just want to better understand yk?
29.04.2022 20:53
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I'm gonna try to water down my pint because my allergies acting up woo -It's not a slur, correct, but the term "Femboy" is going through what the term queer was going through at one point, on and off usage. -The main people who use the term "Femboy" in a fetishizing way is cisgender men, my argument is for trans people to not use the term around cis people, so cis people don't use it. Also my argument is saying not everyone wants to be called a femboy. -I did a counter claim argument using the side of the trans masc community who'd like to use it as a term. I'm glad you're more civil than those of which who are vague posting or throwing my words into a blender to hear what they want to hear. <:]
29.04.2022 20:53
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*point
29.04.2022 20:55
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It's odd that most posts about me have now been deleted, strange.
09.05.2022 17:43
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0000hhhh
29.04.2022 23:39
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So it is a slur
30.04.2022 00:11
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oh my god stfu sal JUST said it wasnt a slur. read for once
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