They just can't handle when they're proven wrong.

Exactitude.

Im sorry, I had to go to sleep, would you like to continue, Pom? I can give you my discord if you want to continue, im open to more debate. And @Purpleone Noone has been proven wrong or right, it is unrealistic to make black or white assumption, for a gray topic.

Am still confused

That was exactly what I was saying lmao ^^^

I started typing before you typed your comment lol

Well, then, heyyy that's their decision! I mean, there are BILLIONS of people who do MUCH more worst things then this, and idk why you're all stuck on something that has been happening for decades, now. I really don't understand the problem. Are you going to keep having babies till your period stops?? 'Cause a woman gets pregnant almost every year. And a woman's period usually stops at like what? 60? If you get married at like, 20 or 30, that's still like more than 40 children birthed from one single woman. I'm not saying that let the baby be in your stomach for three months and then go off killing it. No, that's wrong. But, that's ALSO that person's choice and decision. What if the person doesn't want kids?? I mean...like?? You really can't just walk up to them and start yelling at them cause they're "murdering" an unborn uh, species that only has a few cells, and is not completely living, yet. And I also don't understand why you all think this is murder. It isn't a crime. I mean, like, take it for ANTS.

ANTS are also living things. And worse, they've ALREADY BEEN BORN!!! :0 And people step over them almost ALL THE TIME. Is that murder?? Should you go to jail for that?? I mean, an ant is pretty much a living thing, and it has heartbeats, and it's ALIVE, and been born. It also has a family and home- yet, we all just stomp all over 'em like they're nothing. We all would of been in jail, if you kill anything living. xd xd xd

But, of course, I respect your opinion, highly. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to come off rude or anything. I'm also trying to state my own opinion. uwu

It's like we've all forgotten about self-control and abstinence. Am I the only one who believes in such things? Also, I'm a clump of cells, am I not? And technically some of us are still developing...so what kind of point is that?

An infant is still developing. They still depend on the mother. Is infanticide okay then? A two year old depends on its mother. Can she kill it if she decides she doesn't want it? Where is the line drawn?

I don't think I'm too young for this. I'm stating what I've learned. And humans are the destruction of humans, aren't they?? What is the difference? Also, I believe people do constantly have babies, as long as there's a sperm and an egg. Can you please give me proof that people don't keep having babies until they actually have full sex?? I believe that as long as the sperm is in an egg, there are babies. Besides, cells die in our bodies everyday?? I don't see the problem? And like I said, I respect your opinion. And I DO agree with most of your points. AND I'm not trying to change your mind, but I'm only stating what I believe. Please don't say I'm too young. I also AM a human being, fam.

If you want me to understand, please explain to me?? Lmao Why are you saying "you're too young" "why u no understand" "you're point makes no sense" well, help me make sense!! Since I'm too young and don't understand. And I'm SO very wrong, though, it's my OPINION, and there's never a wrong opinion, because it's an OPINION. Please explain to me??

And just to clarify, if you think I'm justifying people killing children and babies, you're wrong. I'm not saying that murder is okay. And I'm not saying if a baby that is alive in your stomach is okay to throw out. I'm just saying that it's the people's decision to make. I honestly, hate it when babies die but again, it's not making any difference. People die all the time. And everyone is going to die, eventually. I'm taking my own side in this. But, if you think I'm actually appreciating the abortion, I'm not. I just want to understand HOW would you change it??

Lmao I didn't say we should ignore it. And thanks for being very respectful of my opinion. But, like I said, HOW will you make it "better??" How are you going to change everything? I'm just curious on how you'll do it? What will you change? And I know about all of that, but most women DO get pregnant. I'm talking on the most.

Slavery is wrong. I didn't say it wasn't. And I didn't say that abortion was right, either. I know it's legal, but I didn't say it was right. Please understand that what I'm saying is that that's not the only terrible thing that's happening, in the world. I'm not saying you should ignore it, because that's what you all seem to understand from everything I'm saying. I'm just wondering on how you'll make it better? What are your plans??

Well, that's a great thing!! You should do that. But then again, how? EVERYONE wants to make the world a better place. But, there are still lots of bad people, in the world. Including ourselves. People have many dreams of making the world better and peace on Earth and all that. But, it takes A LOT to make a difference. And not only one person. And telling this and discussing it on a drawing site really isn't getting out there. I'm not saying that you should just ignore it, because "ohh pfft, it's IMPOSSIBLE so you should just givE uP LOl!!1!@!11!" no. bUt, being on this site isn't helping either and like I said, it takes a very long time, much more than one person and just A LOT to convince other people, too I was never against you, and I totally understood your opinion. But, the only thing I didn't like was calling it murder. It really depends on how people look at it. But, yes. I agree.

That's alright. I'm glad that we're all at least on one page. 'Cause I've been trying to get my point to the other side for a while, now.

That's very great, if you're thinking into doing that, in the future. I'd def vote an agree with you, when it happens. Thanks for clarifications, good luck, and have a good day.

And a few other things we can do (if you're still a kid): protesting at your local abortion clinics, speaking with women considering abortion and encouraging them to explore other options, discussing these issues with your friends and family, helping mothers who have chosen life for their child (my family has been doing this, and I used to volunteer for a mothers in crisis program)

In my opinion, it has to be born for it to be considered living. Think about it, death is "the end of someone's life" and birth is " the start of someone's life". As I said, you can't kill something that isn't alive in the first place.

By protesting, I only meant praying or holding a (non-offensive) sign outside the gates. Some trained sidewalk councilors try to make conversation with the women going in.

Hassling people in bad situations who are making hard decisions. How honourable.

"Nearly all abortions take place in the first trimester when a fetus is attached by the placenta and umbilical cord to the mother. As such, its health is dependent on her health, and cannot be regarded as a separate entity as it cannot exist outside her womb." -some website I think this was partial what I was trying to get across

it cannot be a separate individual yet.

"Adoption is not an alternative to abortion because it remains the woman's choice whether or not to give her child up for adoption. Statistics show that very few women who give birth choose to give up their babies; less than 3 percent of white unmarried women and less than 2 percent of percent black​ unmarried women." Another argument. What alternatives are there?

@neon It's not alive. It can't die. You can't kill it. It's like ripping plastic. It's not alive, and it's still not. How is this different than "killing" a dead person?

-from SubtleAnxiety

You just restated something that’s been debunked?

There are two sides to the story. Killing a child can be traumatic for the mother and murder is just wrong in general, however, it's her decision. I will not rub my opinion in your face.

I understand your point. Killing a child, who should and could've had a good life is wrong. However, I know I may sound like I'm just repeating myself, but the mother should have the choice. It's her body.

Well, in the case of abortion, it's not just the woman's body involved...there's another life in there. If your argument is whether or not a woman should have to hold that life, that other body, within her or not, then please keep that in mind.

True. But forcing a mother, who : A. Has a child due to rape B. Is too young C. May have a child will severe abnormalities and disabilities To have a child doesn't sit right with me. Women who receive abortions are also less likely to suffer mental health problems than women denied abortions

I am beginning to see and understand what you mean. I am very sorry if anything I said upset you in any way, shape or form.

Fetuses are not alive, they do not have feelings or senses. To call abortion murder is to call eating a carrot cannibalism.

Before they have grown a brain or nervous system that work, they are not alive in the same way as you or I or a baby are.

A fetus doesn't have senses. before it grpows a nervous system, or a brain, or EYES, it has no senses. it has no emotions or experiences. You're comparing it to someone who is already alive.

Evidence please?

Ultrasounds maybe?

please supply evidence that fetuses before the trimester where abortions become illegal choose to respond to stimuli.

another definition of attack that would fit this is: begin to deal with (a problem or task) in a determined and vigorous way.